
GUS Musician's Digest       Mon, 18 Apr 94 14:00 PST     Volume 6: Issue  18  

Today's Topics:
                        GUS wired into an ampd
                              Long Notes
                      Missing Notes/Drum Sounds
                      Multiple pitch bends in CW
                           Pitch bend in CW

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Date: Mon, 18 Apr 94 09:05:10 EDT
From: "Burns Fisher, VMS Engineering  18-Apr-1994 0909" <fisher@skylab.enet.dec.com>
Subject: Re: GUS wired into an ampd

Dustin McCartney writes:

>	I have my GUS Amp Line Out plugged into my stereo (little 
>Panasonic) Line In via RCA jacks.  My problem is this:  I would like to 
>record some of my works (midi/ult) on tape without unbearable 'static'.  
>I have tried both the Amp Line Out and Line Out (The audio volume is then 
>too low on the tape + has static) on my GUS.  The low frequencies seem to 
>be fine (Mediocre actually) and the Bass breaks up to an 
>indistinguishable 'static' sound.  My recordings are crap though I get 
>clear audio when piped through the stereo.  Lowering the volume of 
>PlayMIDI/Media Player helps just a little.  I have read about impedence 
>in one of the previous digests (way back when) and dont know if this is 
>the problem.  Any chance someone can help me or point to a digest that 
>would contain such information.  Thanks in advanced.


I have done this without a problem.  I have the line out from my GUS running to 
the AUX input on an ancient Sony amp (circa 1972!), and it sounds quite fine.  
FWIW, this is the same input to which I run my CD (the amp is too old to have a 
separate CD input!)  The amplified output from the GUS is far to strong, btw.

To make matters even worse, the amp is on the other side of the room, and I am 
getting there via something like 25 feet of shielded pair cable...still no 
problem.

So I'm guessing that maybe you have a problem with your wiring, or with your amp 
in jacks.  Are you sure you are not trying to go into Phone in or something?  
That level/impedance is vastly different than all the other inputs.  Try 
switching to another input, and/or different cables.  Actually, if you have two 
separate cables, then a problem in one of them would result in bad sound on only 
one channel.  If you are using a shielded pair like I am, then a bad ground 
could affect both.

Good luck!

Burns

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Date: Sun, 17 Apr 1994 14:20:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: Emory Menefee <em@crl.com>
Subject: Long Notes

> Richard,
> 
> > For example, if I want a note to play for the entire length of a song, or a
> > significant fraction of the song, it would be significantly unwieldy to
> > define a measure as 100+ bars just for that one note.  Can it be done
> > another way?
> 
> Hmmm, 100 bars, that would be a long note, wouldn't it?! I can't think of an
> easy answer for that one, other than creating a long melody (you can do it in
> Power Chords Pro) and recording it, from the on-screen keyboard, or recording
> it from MIDI in.
> 
> Can I ask why you would want such a long note? Sounds like it might be
> interesting.
> 
> Eric

     The reason for such a run on is to get a drone sound (maybe for a 
     GUS raga).  I have never run a drone on that long, but maybe for
     20 bars.  Unfortunately, I don't think Power Chords Pro will do it, 
     since it breaks off at the end of the first screen.  Do what you   
     need by way of composing onto P-C Pro, save it as a midi file and 
     then bring it up into Recording Session.  Set for tying to the next 
     note, choose a new track, and just start hitting your note at the 
     beginning of each measure.  After a while, copy what you've got to 
     speed up the process.  Incidentally, choose an instrument with a 
     sustained tone, or patch change it if it doesn't so you don't get 
     fade within the measure.                 Emory Menefee   em@crl.com

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Date: Sun, 17 Apr 94 18:37:51 EDT
From: jdimich@ajiant.dnet.dupont.com
Subject: Missing Notes/Drum Sounds

	Would anyone happen to know why Recording Sessions constantly insists
on skipping notes that are being played from my keyboard?  My group is into
composing hardcore/techno/transcore, etc and we use custom patches.  This
brings me to my second question.  When I edit Ultrasnd.ini and change the name
of the drum sounds to custom names, I never get the drum sounds when on channel
10.  This also happens when I leave the GM set of patches installed.  Can
anyone give me any insight.  BTW, my system is a 486dx2-66 with 8 megs of RAM. 
I figured that this would be a fast enough system for composing and sampling. 
Also, are there any other sequencers which are as easy to use as Recording
Sessions, with a little more reliability? They obviously would have to work
with the GUS (such as patch caching etc).  Thanx!

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Date: Sun, 17 Apr 1994 22:51:42 -0700 (MST)
From: "Shawn T. Rutledge" <rutledge@enuxsa.eas.asu.edu>
Subject: Multiple pitch bends in CW

I was trying to do some country guitar in cakewalk just for the heck of it,
and I couldn't get multiple pitch bends in different channels.  In the case
of let us say going from a C chord to an F via a slide, the C note needs to
be bent a certain amount to reach an F, and the E needs to be bent a different
amount to reach an A.  I discovered that if I put the C chord on one channel
and bend it all together the rest of the chords sound funny.  So I tried
to put a C on one channel and an A on the other, but the pitch bend information
I applied to the first channel bent the A on the other channel as well, and 
CW wouldn't let me paste in pitch bend info from the C channel.  It also didn't
include the pitch bend info when I tried to clone the C channel.  And, just now
I tried to bend two different instruments on two different channels and - no
workee.  It bent both instruments regardless which channel or which track I
put the bend info into.  Is this a limitation of MIDI, perhaps deriving from 
the fact that keyboards only have one pitch wheel?  I think it's lame and would
like to find a way around it.
-- 
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 (_  | |_)                                            shawn.rutledge@asu.edu
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Date: Sun, 17 Apr 1994 23:00:11 -0700 (MST)
From: "Shawn T. Rutledge" <rutledge@enuxsa.eas.asu.edu>
Subject: Pitch bend in CW

I just answered my question - you have to use separate PORTS to get multiple
bends, not just separate channels.  (What's the difference anyway?  In a 
normal midi context would a port refer to a physical plug on the card,
for example the music quest 4-port card?  And the Ultrasound pretends
that it's a whole roomful of synthesizers each with its own connection
to the computer?)
-- 
  _______                                                             KB7PWD
 (_  | |_)                                            shawn.rutledge@asu.edu
 __) | | \__________________________________________________________________
* sci fi * Internet * PIC * RISC * SunSparc * GUS * robotics * ARS * fusion * 

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